Dr. Tom Curran explores three states of the Church: Church Triumphant, Church Suffering and Church Militant. Tom also talks about the five stages of grief and the importance of gathering signatures to qualify Referendum-90 to the upcoming ballot.
Dr. Tom and Kari Curran explore the themes of apathy, lethargy and anger. Kari talks about recent breakthroughs and shares her current book list. Tom plays a game of Catholic Trivia and reads quotes from Lukewarm Catholicism: Scourge Upon the Church and Ruin of Souls by Fr. William Casey.